OPINION: England Need More Than Victory v Bangladesh

England’s WWT20 campaign gets started later today, as they take on qualifiers Bangladesh in Bangalore, starting at 10am UK time.

Bangladesh are the lowest-ranked seeds in the competition – they were (narrowly) beaten by Ireland in the final of the qualifying tournament last December; and put to the sword by India in the opening match of the WWT20 earlier this week.

It almost goes without saying that this is a game England should win; but the truth is that they need more than a victory.

Although West Indies had a bit of a scare against Pakistan yesterday, the likelihood is still that this group will be a 3-horse race between West Indies, India and England; but with only two of those sides going through to the knock-out stages, there is therefore a fair chance that our old friend Net Run Rate will be making an appearance before we’re done.

With India having recorded a mammoth 72 run victory over Bangladesh, they are now in the driving-seat with a NRR of +3.6, so England ideally need to better that, either by bowling the Women Tigers out cheaply or by scoring a serious hatful of runs.

Sarah Taylor aside, England have not looked entirely convincing recently – scraping through their tour to South Africa with a pair of 2-1 series victories, where some largely forgettable batting displays were accompanied by fielding performances that they probably only wish they could forget!

But now is the time to put all that behind us. England have 5-or-6 absolutely world class players – Taylor, of course; Edwards and Knight who had massively successful WBBLs; and with the ball, Shrubsole (ranked #1 in the world in T20s) and Hazel (ranked #2); plus Brunt, who might not be quite the threat she once was, but who you underestimate at your peril.

Are England favorites for this tournament? Certainly not! Can they win it? Definitely… but they need to lay down a big marker from the off; and against Bangladesh today, nothing less than a crushing victory will do.

7 thoughts on “OPINION: England Need More Than Victory v Bangladesh

  1. England have no excuses, preparations have been the best they could be and this is a settled and long established group of players.

    For some this maybe their last World Cup they should see that as a motivation.

    C’mon England


  2. Nice to hear an honest appraisal of the performance by the Coach (in BBC match report).

    Some batters feel the need to leave their crease but only the Skipper seems to execute the skill well enough.


  3. I didn’t see this article until the game was over, but I have to say, I don’t agree with the premise.

    I’m really not sure why people seem to be so concerned by the NRR and England needing to be ahead of India. People were saying that we should have got 175 and that we should have restricted them to 80, neither were that likely if you ask me, as the former would have been a lot to ask in the first game (and one of England’s highest ever totals I’d imagine), and Bangladesh were always going to play better than that timid performance with the bat against India.

    How unlucky is Amy Jones? It seems like a strange decision to leave her out and then put Beaumont, who had recently been playing in the middle order, in her opening spot. Today Edwards scored heavily, but how often do both Taylor and Knight fail? Quite likely for one of them to get a score. In my view we should only start worrying about NRR in the last couple of games. Until then, just concentrate on winning, NRR is a sideshow if we beat India and WI.

    Bangladesh Captain Jahanara Alam was, I think, using a bit of kidology when she said they were happy with that 91, in my view. Either that or Bangladesh are a team who don’t know how good they are, which I suppose is possible as well. She also said she would have batted first against England. She won the toss against India and put them in! Conditions not that different… She wanted a longer game I expect, attained by bowling first. This is why I’m a bit surprised we batted first, to be honest.

    England already have NRR advantage over WI. We only need NRR advantage over one of India and WI, not both. People seem to forget that. Of course, if England beat India on Tuesday, they will have four points, good NRR and probably only need to beat Pakistan to get through. That is, unless WI beat India as well, and barring any further upsets. I can’t see WI beating India on evidence so far though. If we lose to India we will probably only get second, barring a massive upset anyway, irrespective of our NRR. The WI match will effectively be a knockout. And it’s not televised! Those scoundrels at the ICC and Sky!

    India still have to prove they can perform, when playing against the best in a big pressure tournament. I’d never seen Kaur bat before, but was amazed at that outrageous backlift she employed in big hitting (it’s obvious how she manages to hit sixes). None of our players have a backlift anything like that. Tactically we should be looking to hurry her and bowl plenty of yorkers. I swear if Gayle hit the ball with same effort as her, it would go into orbit.
    Some of the comments on today’s performance seemed a bit nit-picky, churlish and overly critical. I would have given the England performance a 7 rather than 6. The team did what they needed to do and made a better go of it against a Bangladesh side who obviously played much better than they did against India. That is, better than WI did against Pakistan, with a very dodgy showing where they were lucky to win.

    This is backed up by what could happen in the semis if we progress. Unless SA beat Australia on that rank Nagpur turner, I imagine we will either be facing NZ or Aus in the semis, if we get through. This is really just a 50/50 choice, there are arguments for facing either side, so I don’t think there’s a particular advantage to finishing first in the group rather than second. At least England women, after this opening win, are still in the competition until at least next Thursday. The men could be knocked out tomorrow if they lose to SA.

    Interesting factoid to close: England women 153/7: 15×4, 1×6. Boundary total: 66
    Also today – Afghanistan 153/7: 11×4, 7×6, Boundary total: 86
    Just goes to show, it’s not all about hitting sixes. A decent score can be attained with 4s and good running. Overall run rate is what really matters. If it’s not what you do best, don’t try for it all the time, as you tend to get out.


    • See AllOutCricket have picked Amy Jones as one for the future. Having been in the squad since 2013! She certainly deserves her chance in this team as a few others will not be around to help the ‘real’ next generation.


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  5. If England, India and West Indies are considered to have a 50% chance of beating each other, and assuming they all beat Pakistan and Bangladesh, then the probability that NRR will determine qualification is 25%.

    The reader can decide whether 25% represents a risk worth being concerned about.

    Given 25% is not negligible and failing to qualify due to NRR is so infuriating, I think NRR is well worth keeping an eye on.

    Think of NRR as an extra point.

    One of the features of NRR is that it (rather like career averages) gets harder to change the more games that are played so the usual policy is to get a head and stay ahead.

    For example

    Match 1 : England score 150, Opponents score 100 : England NRR 2.5
    Match 2 : England score 150, Opponents score 150 : England NRR becomes 1.25
    Match 3 : England score 150, Opponents score 100 : England NRR becomes 1.67 (it doesn’t jump by the 2.5 it did in game despite having exactly the same scores).

    You’ve just got to love NRR !


    • 50% chance of beating each other seems high. Chance changes based on circumstances. Main chance would be if one side e.g. India have already qualified when play final game v. WI. Therefore less intense or rest players/ play reserves and more likely to lose. The trouble with thrashing everyone early on and getting insane NRR like NZ are doing is that they risk peaking too soon. A big ask to sustain that level throughout knockout stages. And once a dip happens, difficult to pick up performance again. But doing so will make worthy champions though.


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